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Published on December 11, 2018 By programcsharp In Groupy

Exclude from auto grouping used to work. Then I allowed an upgrade to the latest 1.18 and it does not.

How do I revert to a working version?

Example... Visual Studio 2017 is in the exclude list but Groupy overrides that making it impossible to dock windows:


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on Dec 11, 2018

Hello,

I have forwarded your problem to Stardock Support team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

 

Basj

Stardock Community Assistant.

on Dec 11, 2018

Hello,

Sorry to hear you are having trouble.

It does still appear to work:

https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2018-12-11_10-31-19.mp4

Try the purge and reinstall:

https://forums.stardock.com/488142/groupy-support-faq#reinstalling

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Sean Drohan
Stardock Customer Service Manager

on Dec 12, 2018

Are you using the latest version of VS 2017 (15.9.4)? I wonder if they changed something that broke it.

Here's a video of what happens to me... Basically, dragging the tab at all pops it into a group even though it's set to auto exclude.

And if I try to grab the tab again in groupy it also does it again.

The only way to get it to properly go into VS without auto groupy is to start dragging the tab, let it go into groupy, break it out of the group, then carefully click the titlebar (vs the tab) and drag it in.

 

on Dec 12, 2018

programcsharp

Are you using the latest version of VS 2017 (15.9.4)?

It was 15.9.2 but updating did not change my result.

programcsharp

The only way to get it to properly go into VS without auto groupy is to start dragging the tab, let it go into groupy, break it out of the group, then carefully click the titlebar (vs the tab) and drag it in.

Ok, you are doing something a bit different, busting out actual files from VS and grouping.  I am not certain how Groupy sees the detached file but I suspect it is like Outlook when dragging out emails, they just look different to the Groupy.

If you initiate actual instance of VS, it should perform like shown in my video.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

on Dec 12, 2018

I wasn't trying to bust the file out, just take it inside VS and split it to two panes, but for some reason Groupy was grabbing the file and going to auto-group instead of letting VS's split pane stuff work.

I was able to fix this by toggling the exclude. I grouped and then unchecked "automatically exclude" and then closed out VS. Then opened VS and grouped and re-checked "automatically exclude". Now it is correctly letting VS do its split pane stuff instead of immediately grouping it in like my video. Normally when splitting to two panes, VS doesn't create an additional window, so Groupy must have been getting in there and splitting it out somehow.

After toggling the setting, it even works with "automatically exclude" disabled -- it doesn't grab the file immediately like in my video but only if I drag to title bar. Does toggling that reset some other setting in Groupy?

Is there any way to do a "never group" vs "automatically exclude"? Some things like VS you never want to Groupy because they have their own window management.

on Dec 12, 2018

programcsharp

Some things like VS you never want to Groupy because they have their own window management.

Perhaps the conditional options for grouping (Shift, Ctrl, etc) is something you would want to consider:

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

on Dec 12, 2018

Aha! What I actually want is the next one down, "Application exclusions". I forgot about that. I guess you can only add to the exclude by typing in a file path. While you can only set the "don't auto group" by clicking in the Groupy menu. Adding devenv.exe in the exclude list solves it.

Is there a reason they are two separate concepts instead of one list? Bit confusing.

on Dec 12, 2018

programcsharp

Is there a reason they are two separate concepts instead of one list? Bit confusing.

I am not certain but will inquire.

Glad it worked out, programcsharp.

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Sean Drohan
Stardock Customer Service Manager

on Dec 12, 2018

Cool.

Thanks for the most excellent and responsive support!

on Dec 12, 2018

programcsharp

Thanks for the most excellent and responsive support!

You are most welcome.

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Sean Drohan
Stardock Customer Service Manager